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My Male to Female Trans series #2 Candis Cayne

by sarahconte Posted 5th Apr 2008 at 12:45 AM - Updated 5th Apr 2008 at 6:51 PM by sarahconte
19 Comments / replies (Who?) - 18 Feedback Posts
I have always been fascinated by the "gender line," and whether it actually existed or whether it was just in our minds. In the past few years I have been blessed to meet a number of people who walk that thin line and who have shown me that gender is not a binary concept. Not everyone falls into the easy category of "Male" and "Female." These people have taught me a lot about myself and the world around me just through being themselves. I've researched carefully through talking and reading and have recently begun writing a transsexual character myself on my RPG. One of the many people who served as inspiration for her character was the lovely and somewhat controversial Candis Cayne, the first transsexual actor to play a transsexual character in primetime tv. Ms Cayne may be seen on ABC's Dirty Sexy Money, which will be back in September.













She is a male sim. When you download her, she will look male and your game will treat her so. The only time she will appear female is when she is nude, unless you download specific clothing from Simmergirl.com or a similar site.






Here is how she will appear when you download her.



Have fun with her, I have very much enjoyed making her.


Custom Content by Me:
- Candis Cayne
- Candis Cayne hair recolored by Sarah
- Candis Cayne hair recolored by Sarah

Custom Content Included:
- Zoej [brows1] brown by zoej
- Alin Fog, by Ashes by Cinders
- helaene - natural beauty - 1 by Helaene
- by hakaisha @ modthesims2.com by hakaisha
- "rosewood" glossy gloss - Ennaedwyn03/06 by Ennaedwyn
- EyeBags ~ Mermaid Cove www.mercosims.com by MermaidCove
- by La_Exotique by La_exotique
- 'Louis Mid'simmergirlPKmesh(gothplague) by Gothplague
- OneBlondMomma conversion by YANFRForm by yanfrform

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19 Comments / Replies (Who?) - 17 Feedback Posts
Test Subject
#2 Old 7th Apr 2008 at 5:31 PM
Wow~ This she is amazing! One of my closest friends is transsexual. I'm definitely showing her Candis. ;]

Thanks a ton.
Lab Assistant
#3 Old 7th Apr 2008 at 7:21 PM
I'm sorry but this doesn't really look like her, but there is a resemblence so your're on the right track. (I love Dirty Sexy Money!)
Lab Assistant
#4 Old 7th Apr 2008 at 9:41 PM
Just saying, it sounds like this Candis person is a transwoman, she uses female pronouns and has a female name. Why would you make her a male sim? The game would then force her to use male bathrooms and whatnot. That's kind of... defeating the purpose.

My self-sim is a boy.
Test Subject
Original Poster
#5 Old 8th Apr 2008 at 12:10 AM
Faixkuro: You're welcome. Go and look at my Jolie sim, if you're so inclined

lukejb: She doesn't look precisely like her, but I have been workshopping her a loooong time (about four months) and she's as close as those of us in the Creator forum can make her. She's seriously tough, 'cause she looks different every time she moves.

Luminance: She is a transwoman. But I chose to make her male because I could. I could have made her female, but the facial meshes would not have been big enough, etc. You can set her as female in the game with a simple hack, were you so inclined

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#6 Old 8th Apr 2008 at 2:32 PM
I think she looks great! Thank you and I have been waiting since I saw her at CF. Thanks again!

Bites and Kisses
Vampire
Forum Resident
#7 Old 8th Apr 2008 at 3:59 PM Last edited by SparkleSim : 8th Apr 2008 at 4:51 PM.
Wow! That's totally neat! I've tried to create a transexual myself before, and it was pretty difficult actually, because male sims have such husky and burly facial features. You did a nice job, and it's not like it's easy to get a sim's resemblance to look EXACTLY the same. Thanks for creating him/her or whichever

Hey, this reminds me of a time I came across another trans downloads. This guy really had me tricked at first glance. You should check out Sylvia here.

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Theorist
#8 Old 8th Apr 2008 at 5:20 PM
You finally uploaded her/him! ;D
I wondered why you made her as a guy. I seriously had no idea she was a guy. Because of the bewbs.

OMAR'S BAMFERIFIC!
Be THERE or be SQUARE.
Test Subject
#9 Old 9th Apr 2008 at 1:55 AM
I never thought of making a transsexual sim! Great job!
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Lab Assistant
#10 Old 9th Apr 2008 at 4:09 AM
Great job! I think we need more trans sims in the Sims 2 world! There's lots of cheats, hacks and little tricks that can make them totally accurate. Nice work shadowing the brow area!

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Test Subject
Original Poster
#11 Old 9th Apr 2008 at 11:21 PM
Vampire: Thanks. I'm so glad you like her!
Sparkle: It certainly is not easy, but it's a whole lot of fun, and it's always amusing to explain to people what you're doing. I have Sylvia, she was what inspired me to rework Jolie (who was already in my game as a bio-female) and how I found simmergirl.com.
Zinthos: If you watched Dogma, you'd know that "T*ts don't make a woman." Actually though, Candis is a woman, as much as I am. She just wasn't physically born one. She is one now
Lex: I'm glad you like her. I really love my trans simmies.
Nacey:I have one more in mind, maybe two, both based on people I know personally. One of my friends has agreed to let me photograph her just so I can make good makeup for her sim. She doesn't know why yet, but I'll show her when I'm done

Come follow me to Alphabet City A grown up Real Life RPG which has been running for more than 3 years.
Scholar
#12 Old 10th Apr 2008 at 7:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WomenAreSlags
Why have you done a Trans sexual?. This sort of thing should be banned from this site, as young children use mts2.
Some young children ARE both genders by nature. 20 years ago an endocronoligst cautioned me that due to a rare hereditary endocrine issue it was possible I could give birth to a child that is hermaphroditic. Well I did have a child, a "normal" daughter. However once you're given news like I was 20 years ago, love causes you to redefine what you consider "normal" and had my child been born any other way I'd consider normal as being whatever nature/God made my child.

What is NOT "normal" to me is to hate and exclude people because they are different biologically by choice or by nature. Shunning people as freaks or pervs due to something as personal as gender identity is cruel. Sorry don't mean to contribute to a debate but I can't sit by and see innocent people treated like outcasts. They go through enough pain. As for impressionable children, I think the only message they could get out of this subject is to understand that people are sometimes different and to let them live their lives in peace and dignity.

I appreciate this character. I don't really have any role for her in my game, but I do appreciate the posting of this sim and the attempt to shed some light and education on a worthy subject.

What if one little pop could open a world of wonder
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Test Subject
Original Poster
#13 Old 10th Apr 2008 at 10:51 PM
Heh, oddly I missed that post entirely. Not sure how. Kinda glad I did. There's positively nothing wrong with Candis, either the sim or the person. Not a thing which is "un-family friendly."
There is no reason a kid shouldn't have her in their game, unless
A. Parents have issue with her outfit, which can easily be changed or
B. Parents don't want to have a potentially uncomfortable talk with their kids.

I have several transsexual friends and a young girl I know saw me out in public with one such friend. We chatted for several minutes, and nothing was said. I thought she hadn't noticed. A few days later, I saw the child, this time on my own. She said "Why was your boyfriend wearing a dress?" I explained to her that first of all she wasn't my boyfriend, she was just a friend. And the dress I explained like this: She herself is a girl. And most of the time she chose to wear jeans. She was comfortable in them, right? Yes. And jeans are "boy" clothes, traditionally? Yes. And since she was comfortable in clothes which could be considered "boy" clothes, didn't it make sense that there would also be boys who were more comfortable in "girl" clothes? She allowed that yeah, that made perfect sense.

Seven year olds get things. We just have to not underestimate them.

Come follow me to Alphabet City A grown up Real Life RPG which has been running for more than 3 years.
Test Subject
#14 Old 8th May 2008 at 7:55 AM
First of all, let me just say two things. First, I think you did quite a good job capturing her likeness - I came here from the CF thread, where it's really evident how much work you put into getting her right. (I'm trying to do celebrity Sims at the moment too. It's not easy, and I'm not even as exacting as you. Which probably means they'll get rejected, but oh well!)

Secondly, I think that your message and attitude is great. For me the Sims is kind of an ideal world; no one gets appalled if there are two male lovers or so, they just treat it like any other romance. Given that, it makes perfect sense to throw transsexuals into the mix as well.

... And now that I've made that disclaimer, I'm going to nitpick you a bit. All in good humor, though, I hope.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarahconte
I have several transsexual friends and a young girl I know saw me out in public with one such friend. We chatted for several minutes, and nothing was said. I thought she hadn't noticed. A few days later, I saw the child, this time on my own. She said "Why was your boyfriend wearing a dress?" I explained to her that first of all she wasn't my boyfriend, she was just a friend. And the dress I explained like this: She herself is a girl. And most of the time she chose to wear jeans. She was comfortable in them, right? Yes. And jeans are "boy" clothes, traditionally? Yes. And since she was comfortable in clothes which could be considered "boy" clothes, didn't it make sense that there would also be boys who were more comfortable in "girl" clothes? She allowed that yeah, that made perfect sense.

Seven year olds get things. We just have to not underestimate them.


To me, what you've just described is not a transsexual, but rather a crossdresser. A transsexual is someone who really identifies as the other sex and dresses like that in order to come closer to what they feel is the right biological shape for their body. They would not appreciate being called boys (or packaged as them! lol), because they feel that this was a mistake, and it usually has caused them a lot of pain. If possible, transsexual/transgender people will usually have operations to change their genitals, chests, voices, facial hair, etc., until they can truly become the sex they feel they were meant to be.

Crossdressers may be content as boys (or girls) - whatever sex they were born as - but they enjoy dressing-up as the opposite. There can be a number of reasons for this: being comfortable in those clothes, as you said, or novelty, or disguise, or a fetish... lots of possibilities. But if they are happy with the genitals they've got, they aren't transsexuals.

So... transsexuals can be/often are crossdressers, but crossdressers aren't always transsexuals, and to me your friend doesn't really sound like one.


I'm neither transsexual nor a crossdresser, just bisexual/someone who has lots of interest in the LGBT community.
Test Subject
#15 Old 15th May 2008 at 2:01 AM
this download makes me happy.

---Ash
Test Subject
Original Poster
#16 Old 3rd Jun 2008 at 7:38 PM Last edited by sarahconte : 3rd Jun 2008 at 7:46 PM.
Quote:
To me, what you've just described is not a transsexual, but rather a crossdresser. A transsexual is someone who really identifies as the other sex and dresses like that in order to come closer to what they feel is the right biological shape for their body. They would not appreciate being called boys (or packaged as them! lol), because they feel that this was a mistake, and it usually has caused them a lot of pain. If possible, transsexual/transgender people will usually have operations to change their genitals, chests, voices, facial hair, etc., until they can truly become the sex they feel they were meant to be.

Crossdressers may be content as boys (or girls) - whatever sex they were born as - but they enjoy dressing-up as the opposite. There can be a number of reasons for this: being comfortable in those clothes, as you said, or novelty, or disguise, or a fetish... lots of possibilities. But if they are happy with the genitals they've got, they aren't transsexuals.

So... transsexuals can be/often are crossdressers, but crossdressers aren't always transsexuals, and to me your friend doesn't really sound like one.


I'm neither transsexual nor a crossdresser, just bisexual/someone who has lots of interest in the LGBT community.


Yes, I'm aware of that. I actually have several friends all over the gender spectrum, some pre- some post- some non-op, and gender indeed lays between the ears, not the legs. My friend described above by definition, is a crossdresser, but also indeed a transsexual, however, not a fully committed one. Part of this is due to upbringing. He/she is more comfortable and confident as a woman and goes between pronouns and does a fine job sitting the fence, can be male one moment, female the next, whichever the situation and his mood dictates. I was actually just providing an example of a situation in which a child was not damaged by such a situation.

And I do know transsexuals who are perfectly fine with their born genitals, though they might change them, given the opportunity. I have a friend who has had everything done but bottom surgery and she lives/identifies entirely as a woman. One thing I've learned is that labels don't always fit everyone, and there are as many ways to be a man/woman/transsexual/etc as there are people to be them

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Test Subject
#17 Old 3rd Aug 2008 at 9:41 PM
Having just joined up, I've been browsing the amazing content on this site. I've just read through this page, and I must say the outpouring of support fills my heart to overflowing. If nobody has figured it out yet, I'm transgender, a transwoman to be exact. I can speak first hand how hard it is being as I am in a world where so many don't understand. Seeing so many here filling to come to bat for us..well...it fills me with hope and love. You all are truely excellent people, and I thank you all very much.

sarahconte: I appreciate your hard work. Its a very beautiful sim and she'll have a good place in my collection. Keep up the good work ^_^
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 2nd May 2014 at 7:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarahconte
Faixkuro: You're welcome. Go and look at my Jolie sim, if you're so inclined

lukejb: She doesn't look precisely like her, but I have been workshopping her a loooong time (about four months) and she's as close as those of us in the Creator forum can make her. She's seriously tough, 'cause she looks different every time she moves.

Luminance: She is a transwoman. But I chose to make her male because I could. I could have made her female, but the facial meshes would not have been big enough, etc. You can set her as female in the game with a simple hack, were you so inclined


Actually- no hack would be required if you just cloned her in body shop and flipped her to 'female' - BUT like you said she's not ACTUALLY female so her sizes and what not aren't the same as a true female. I think that this is a great idea, especially going to male bathrooms and such and if you added 'realistic romance' mod where the people you would be attracted to wouldn't always be easy to get with (more realistic). But then again my ENTIRE sims game is filled with ONLY male gay sims- in Rainbow Valley. I tend to kill off all the women in the game anyway- they annoy me. Pretty hard to imagine that I am a woman...